Esha Bhandhari, ACLU Staff Attorney with the Speech, Privacy and Technology project talks about the implications of Apple and the Govts most recent fight. Is your data at stake? Plus, an Adele song is so thoroughly crushing Karel can’t get past it. And Trump isn’t Christian as he is bitch slapped by the Pope, but really, WHO CARES. Be sure to support the show at Patreon And visit the website ReallyKarel

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